diff --git a/rnmodules/react-native-kb/android/src/main/java/com/reactnativekb/KbModule.kt b/rnmodules/react-native-kb/android/src/main/java/com/reactnativekb/KbModule.kt
index 001ccc5024c9..0b33e9998688 100644
--- a/rnmodules/react-native-kb/android/src/main/java/com/reactnativekb/KbModule.kt
+++ b/rnmodules/react-native-kb/android/src/main/java/com/reactnativekb/KbModule.kt
@@ -109,14 +109,8 @@ internal class KbModule(reactContext: ReactApplicationContext?) : KbSpec(reactCo
         return GuiConfig.getInstance(reactContext.getFilesDir())?.asString()
     }
 
-
-    // only old arch, uncomment
-    // override fun getConstants(): MutableMap<String, Any>? {
-    //     return getTypedExportedConstants()
-    // }
-
-    // newarch @Override
-    override fun getTypedExportedConstants(): MutableMap<String, Any> {
+    @ReactMethod(isBlockingSynchronousMethod = true)
+    override fun getTypedConstants(): WritableMap {
         val versionCode: String = getBuildConfigValue("VERSION_CODE").toString()
         val versionName: String = getBuildConfigValue("VERSION_NAME").toString()
         var isDeviceSecure = false
@@ -146,18 +140,19 @@ internal class KbModule(reactContext: ReactApplicationContext?) : KbSpec(reactCo
                 downloadDir = dir.getAbsolutePath()
             }
         }
-        val constants: MutableMap<String, Any> = HashMap()
-        constants.put("androidIsDeviceSecure", isDeviceSecure)
-        constants.put("androidIsTestDevice", misTestDevice)
-        constants.put("appVersionCode", versionCode)
-        constants.put("appVersionName", versionName)
-        constants.put("darkModeSupported", false)
-        constants.put("fsCacheDir", cacheDir)
-        constants.put("fsDownloadDir", downloadDir)
-        constants.put("guiConfig", readGuiConfig() as Any)
-        constants.put("serverConfig", serverConfig)
-        constants.put("uses24HourClock", DateFormat.is24HourFormat(reactContext))
-        constants.put("version", version())
+
+        val constants: WritableMap = Arguments.createMap()
+        constants.putBoolean("androidIsDeviceSecure", isDeviceSecure)
+        constants.putBoolean("androidIsTestDevice", misTestDevice)
+        constants.putString("appVersionCode", versionCode)
+        constants.putString("appVersionName", versionName)
+        constants.putBoolean("darkModeSupported", false)
+        constants.putString("fsCacheDir", cacheDir)
+        constants.putString("fsDownloadDir", downloadDir)
+        constants.putString("guiConfig", readGuiConfig())
+        constants.putString("serverConfig", serverConfig)
+        constants.putBoolean("uses24HourClock", DateFormat.is24HourFormat(reactContext))
+        constants.putString("version", version())
         return constants
     }
 
diff --git a/rnmodules/react-native-kb/android/src/oldarch/KbSpec.kt b/rnmodules/react-native-kb/android/src/oldarch/KbSpec.kt
index 7558f7a2f281..bb90f05acb7a 100644
--- a/rnmodules/react-native-kb/android/src/oldarch/KbSpec.kt
+++ b/rnmodules/react-native-kb/android/src/oldarch/KbSpec.kt
@@ -4,11 +4,11 @@ import com.facebook.react.bridge.ReactApplicationContext
 import com.facebook.react.bridge.ReactContextBaseJavaModule
 import com.facebook.react.bridge.Promise
 import com.facebook.react.bridge.ReadableMap
-import java.util.Map
+import com.facebook.react.bridge.WritableMap
 
 abstract class KbSpec(context: ReactApplicationContext?) : ReactContextBaseJavaModule(context) {
 
-    abstract fun getTypedExportedConstants(): MutableMap<String, Any>
+    abstract fun getTypedConstants(): WritableMap
     abstract fun install(): Boolean
     abstract fun getDefaultCountryCode(promise: Promise)
     abstract fun logSend(status: String, feedback: String, sendLogs: Boolean, sendMaxBytes: Boolean, traceDir: String, cpuProfileDir: String, promise: Promise)
diff --git a/rnmodules/react-native-kb/src/NativeKb.ts b/rnmodules/react-native-kb/src/NativeKb.ts
index 6270162cbfd9..6a7e1bdd0354 100644
--- a/rnmodules/react-native-kb/src/NativeKb.ts
+++ b/rnmodules/react-native-kb/src/NativeKb.ts
@@ -4,18 +4,22 @@ export interface Spec extends TurboModule {
   install: () => boolean
   addListener: (eventType: string) => void
   removeListeners: (count: number) => void
-  getConstants(): {
-    androidIsDeviceSecure: boolean
-    androidIsTestDevice: boolean
-    appVersionCode: string
-    appVersionName: string
-    darkModeSupported: boolean
-    fsCacheDir: string
-    fsDownloadDir: string
-    guiConfig: string
-    serverConfig: string
-    uses24HourClock: boolean
-    version: string
+  // not used directly, just used to get constants which are individually pulled out, see ./index.tsx
+  getTypedConstants: () => {
+    [key: string]: unknown
+    /*
+  androidIsDeviceSecure: boolean
+  androidIsTestDevice: boolean
+  appVersionCode: string
+  appVersionName: string
+  darkModeSupported: boolean
+  fsCacheDir: string
+  fsDownloadDir: string
+  guiConfig: string
+  serverConfig: string
+  uses24HourClock: boolean
+  version: string
+    */
   }
   getDefaultCountryCode(): Promise<string>
   logSend(
diff --git a/rnmodules/react-native-kb/src/index.tsx b/rnmodules/react-native-kb/src/index.tsx
index 60b0d63ad843..446ed9a1bea4 100644
--- a/rnmodules/react-native-kb/src/index.tsx
+++ b/rnmodules/react-native-kb/src/index.tsx
@@ -145,14 +145,16 @@ export const getNativeEmitter = () => {
   return new NativeEventEmitter(Kb as any)
 }
 
-export const androidIsDeviceSecure: boolean = Kb.getConstants().androidIsDeviceSecure
-export const androidIsTestDevice: boolean = Kb.getConstants().androidIsTestDevice
-export const appVersionCode: string = Kb.getConstants().appVersionCode
-export const appVersionName: string = Kb.getConstants().appVersionCode
-export const darkModeSupported: boolean = Kb.getConstants().darkModeSupported
-export const fsCacheDir: string = Kb.getConstants().fsCacheDir
-export const fsDownloadDir: string = Kb.getConstants().fsDownloadDir
-export const guiConfig: string = Kb.getConstants().guiConfig
-export const serverConfig: string = Kb.getConstants().serverConfig
-export const uses24HourClock: boolean = Kb.getConstants().uses24HourClock
-export const version: string = Kb.getConstants().version
+const pc = Kb.getTypedConstants()
+
+export const androidIsDeviceSecure: boolean = pc.androidIsDeviceSecure
+export const androidIsTestDevice: boolean = pc.androidIsTestDevice
+export const appVersionCode: string = pc.appVersionCode
+export const appVersionName: string = pc.appVersionCode
+export const darkModeSupported: boolean = pc.darkModeSupported
+export const fsCacheDir: string = pc.fsCacheDir
+export const fsDownloadDir: string = pc.fsDownloadDir
+export const guiConfig: string = pc.guiConfig
+export const serverConfig: string = pc.serverConfig
+export const uses24HourClock: boolean = pc.uses24HourClock
+export const version: string = pc.version
diff --git a/shared/android/gradle.properties b/shared/android/gradle.properties
index be74d4d57d3a..3052afaf3825 100644
--- a/shared/android/gradle.properties
+++ b/shared/android/gradle.properties
@@ -21,7 +21,8 @@ reactNativeArchitectures=armeabi-v7a,arm64-v8a,x86,x86_64
 # to write custom TurboModules/Fabric components OR use libraries that
 # are providing them.
 # RUN A CLEAN if you change this
-newArchEnabled=false # TEMP this is just due to https://github.com/software-mansion/react-native-screens/pull/2466 not being merged
+# TEMP this is just due to https://github.com/software-mansion/react-native-screens/pull/2466 not being merged
+newArchEnabled=false
 # Use this property to enable or disable the Hermes JS engine.
 # If set to false, you will be using JSC instead.
 hermesEnabled=true
diff --git a/shared/app/index.native.tsx b/shared/app/index.native.tsx
index 415a4afe74eb..626bd879d6b0 100644
--- a/shared/app/index.native.tsx
+++ b/shared/app/index.native.tsx
@@ -101,19 +101,22 @@ let inited = false
 const useInit = () => {
   if (inited) return
   inited = true
-  const {batch} = C.useWaitingState.getState().dispatch
-  const eng = makeEngine(batch, c => {
-    if (c) {
-      C.useEngineState.getState().dispatch.onEngineConnected()
-    } else {
-      C.useEngineState.getState().dispatch.onEngineDisconnected()
-    }
-  })
-  C.initListeners()
-  eng.listenersAreReady()
+  const f = async () => {
+    const {batch} = C.useWaitingState.getState().dispatch
+    const eng = makeEngine(batch, c => {
+      if (c) {
+        C.useEngineState.getState().dispatch.onEngineConnected()
+      } else {
+        C.useEngineState.getState().dispatch.onEngineDisconnected()
+      }
+    })
+    await C.initListeners()
+    eng.listenersAreReady()
 
-  // On mobile there is no installer
-  C.useConfigState.getState().dispatch.installerRan()
+    // On mobile there is no installer
+    C.useConfigState.getState().dispatch.installerRan()
+  }
+  C.ignorePromise(f())
 }
 
 // reanimated has issues updating shared values with this on seemingly w/ zoom toolkit
diff --git a/shared/chat/conversation/messages/message-popup/attachment.tsx b/shared/chat/conversation/messages/message-popup/attachment.tsx
index d190343b6b02..f4a41eafa07e 100644
--- a/shared/chat/conversation/messages/message-popup/attachment.tsx
+++ b/shared/chat/conversation/messages/message-popup/attachment.tsx
@@ -50,7 +50,7 @@ const PopAttach = (ownProps: OwnProps) => {
   }, [messageAttachmentNativeSave, ordinal])
 
   const onSaveAttachment =
-    C.isMobile && (attachmentType === 'image' || C.Chat.isImageViewable(message))
+    (C.isMobile && (attachmentType === 'image' || C.Chat.isImageViewable(message))) || C.isAndroid
       ? _onSaveAttachment
       : undefined
 
diff --git a/shared/constants/chat2/convostate.tsx b/shared/constants/chat2/convostate.tsx
index 65cfd8613e60..fb3f74358c52 100644
--- a/shared/constants/chat2/convostate.tsx
+++ b/shared/constants/chat2/convostate.tsx
@@ -1826,7 +1826,12 @@ const createSlice: Z.ImmerStateCreator<ConvoState> = (set, get) => {
             }
           })
           logger.info('Trying to save chat attachment to camera roll')
-          await C.PlatformSpecific.saveAttachmentToCameraRoll(fileName, fileType)
+          const isCamera = fileType.startsWith('image/') || fileType.startsWith('video/')
+          if (isCamera) {
+            await C.PlatformSpecific.saveAttachmentToCameraRoll(fileName, fileType)
+          } else if (C.isAndroid) {
+            await C.PlatformSpecific.saveAttachmentToCameraRoll(fileName, fileType)
+          }
           set(s => {
             const m3 = s.messageMap.get(ordinal)
             if (m3?.type === 'attachment') {
diff --git a/shared/constants/index.tsx b/shared/constants/index.tsx
index fb1cf59cbe50..5597c7f8f653 100644
--- a/shared/constants/index.tsx
+++ b/shared/constants/index.tsx
@@ -77,12 +77,9 @@ import {useConfigState_ as useConfigState} from './config'
 export {default as shallowEqual} from 'shallowequal'
 export * as PlatformSpecific from './platform-specific'
 
-export const initListeners = () => {
-  const f = async () => {
-    await useFSState.getState().dispatch.setupSubscriptions()
-    useConfigState.getState().dispatch.setupSubscriptions()
-  }
-  ignorePromise(f())
+export const initListeners = async () => {
+  await useFSState.getState().dispatch.setupSubscriptions()
+  useConfigState.getState().dispatch.setupSubscriptions()
 }
 
 // extracts the payload from pages used in routing
diff --git a/shared/constants/platform-specific/index.d.ts b/shared/constants/platform-specific/index.d.ts
index 7eefb9fc101e..1f7d091d554e 100644
--- a/shared/constants/platform-specific/index.d.ts
+++ b/shared/constants/platform-specific/index.d.ts
@@ -11,6 +11,7 @@ export declare function showShareActionSheet(options: {
   method: string
 }>
 
+export declare function saveAttachmentToMobile(fileURL: string, mimeType: string): Promise<void>
 export declare function saveAttachmentToCameraRoll(fileURL: string, mimeType: string): Promise<void>
 export declare function requestLocationPermission(mode: T.RPCChat.UIWatchPositionPerm): Promise<void>
 export declare function watchPositionForMap(conversationIDKey: T.Chat.ConversationIDKey): Promise<() => void>
diff --git a/shared/constants/platform-specific/index.desktop.tsx b/shared/constants/platform-specific/index.desktop.tsx
index c2c8c6711e30..d76d39881309 100644
--- a/shared/constants/platform-specific/index.desktop.tsx
+++ b/shared/constants/platform-specific/index.desktop.tsx
@@ -26,6 +26,10 @@ export async function saveAttachmentToCameraRoll() {
   return Promise.reject(new Error('Save Attachment to camera roll - unsupported on this platform'))
 }
 
+export async function saveAttachmentToMobile() {
+  return Promise.reject(new Error('Save Attachment to mobile- unsupported on this platform'))
+}
+
 export const requestLocationPermission = async () => Promise.resolve()
 export const watchPositionForMap = async () => Promise.resolve(() => {})
 
diff --git a/shared/constants/platform-specific/index.native.tsx b/shared/constants/platform-specific/index.native.tsx
index a5a33004d00f..c30563f6f87b 100644
--- a/shared/constants/platform-specific/index.native.tsx
+++ b/shared/constants/platform-specific/index.native.tsx
@@ -66,6 +66,8 @@ export const requestLocationPermission = async (mode: T.RPCChat.UIWatchPositionP
   }
 }
 
+export async function saveAttachmentToMobile(filePath: string, mimeType: string): Promise<void> {}
+
 export async function saveAttachmentToCameraRoll(filePath: string, mimeType: string): Promise<void> {
   const fileURL = 'file://' + filePath
   const saveType: 'video' | 'photo' = mimeType.startsWith('video') ? 'video' : 'photo'
@@ -76,7 +78,18 @@ export async function saveAttachmentToCameraRoll(filePath: string, mimeType: str
       await requestPermissionsToWrite()
     } catch {}
     logger.info(logPrefix + `Attempting to save as ${saveType}`)
-    await MediaLibrary.saveToLibraryAsync(fileURL)
+    if (isIOS) {
+      await MediaLibrary.saveToLibraryAsync(fileURL)
+    } else {
+      const asset = await MediaLibrary.createAssetAsync(fileURL)
+      const albumName = 'Keybase'
+      const _album = await MediaLibrary.getAlbumAsync(albumName)
+      let album = _album as typeof _album | null
+      if (!album) {
+        album = await MediaLibrary.createAlbumAsync(albumName, asset, false)
+      }
+      await MediaLibrary.addAssetsToAlbumAsync([asset], album, false)
+    }
     logger.info(logPrefix + 'Success')
   } catch (e) {
     // This can fail if the user backgrounds too quickly, so throw up a local notification
@@ -414,6 +427,16 @@ export const initPlatformListener = () => {
   })
 
   C.useDaemonState.subscribe((s, old) => {
+    if (isAndroid) {
+      C.ignorePromise(
+        T.RPCChat.localConfigureFileAttachmentDownloadLocalRpcPromise({
+          // Android's cache dir is (when I tried) [app]/cache but Go side uses
+          // [app]/.cache by default, which can't be used for sharing to other apps.
+          cacheDirOverride: fsCacheDir,
+          downloadDirOverride: fsDownloadDir,
+        })
+      )
+    }
     if (s.handshakeVersion === old.handshakeVersion) return
 
     // loadStartupDetails finished already
@@ -429,17 +452,6 @@ export const initPlatformListener = () => {
       }
       afterStartupDetails(true)
     }
-
-    if (isAndroid) {
-      C.ignorePromise(
-        T.RPCChat.localConfigureFileAttachmentDownloadLocalRpcPromise({
-          // Android's cache dir is (when I tried) [app]/cache but Go side uses
-          // [app]/.cache by default, which can't be used for sharing to other apps.
-          cacheDirOverride: fsCacheDir,
-          downloadDirOverride: fsDownloadDir,
-        })
-      )
-    }
   })
 
   C.useConfigState.setState(s => {
diff --git a/shared/engine/index-impl.tsx b/shared/engine/index-impl.tsx
index fc3a4a2cc306..a7d7ea15eaa3 100644
--- a/shared/engine/index-impl.tsx
+++ b/shared/engine/index-impl.tsx
@@ -115,6 +115,7 @@ class Engine {
   // We proxy the stuff over the mainWindowDispatch
   _onConnected() {
     this._hasConnected = true
+
     this._onConnectedCB(true)
   }
 
diff --git a/shared/todo.txt b/shared/todo.txt
index 24908d01ec71..a590584b9773 100644
--- a/shared/todo.txt
+++ b/shared/todo.txt
@@ -1,3 +1,10 @@
+chat file save flows
+click on pdf insta saves with a quick blink of the save overlay?
+kbfs save flows
+
+
+
+
 TEMP disabling new arch on android due to this
 android can't click on stack header area in new arch: https://github.com/software-mansion/react-native-screens/pull/2466