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Some class 3 or class 2 contraband can be printed in merc fabs. #2822

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BramvanZijp opened this issue Jan 31, 2025 · 6 comments
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Some class 3 or class 2 contraband can be printed in merc fabs. #2822

BramvanZijp opened this issue Jan 31, 2025 · 6 comments

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@BramvanZijp
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Several C2 and even C3 items can be obtained through regular research, which is a problem since people can try to argue it is legal because they printed it using NT equipment, despite the fact that space law has no exemption clause for printed gear.
This includes explosive payloads (C2 according to space law), XRay cannons (C3 according to examine and space law) aswell as several NFSD tools like laser cannons, disabler smgs, telescopic shields, etc. (NFSD Restricetd / C2 according to examine and space law.)

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This can be fixed in 2 ways:

  1. Go through every item which has this issue, and either make a C1 variant of it when printed, or remove it from the fabricator.
  2. Add a Safety wire to lathes, simular to the Manager wire on vendors, which if cut, will allow you to print the above items, which would otherwise be hidden in the fabricator menu, this way you can't argue it was obtained legally since you had to disable a safety system to print it.
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blackknight954 commented Jan 31, 2025

Chiming in as the author of the X-ray and disabled SMG changes, NFSD can buy disabled SMG’s with FUC’s and not need to do research, while everyone else needs research. Stun batons are also pretty common on frontier for non NFSD, albeit it needs research.

Like with any change all my PR’s were approved by maintainers, but if you want them to be re evaluated I’m not opposed to it if needed, albeit that’s not my say anyway.

As for the Xray and laser cannon, even with their wider availability I don’t see them used all that often due to needing charging instead of just reloading them.

An easier solution might be to just add a clause saying printed equipment is except from contraband classifications

@BramvanZijp
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I feel like that will be hard to track, so itd be better to make it so either its not contra if its printed (so make it class 1 if printed) or make it so it cant be printed (without snipping a new wire or emagging it.)

@Cheackraze
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the idea is that NFSD can license the space-legal use of these and in so doing track them, etc. Having them available through research is kind of intended, at least for now. We just need to ensure that a round-start or stock fabricator cant print c2 contraband, so the standard issue stuff like stun batons should get classified to t1

@Cheackraze
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woops didnt mean to close

@blackknight954
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the idea is that NFSD can license the space-legal use of these and in so doing track them, etc. Having them available through research is kind of intended, at least for now. We just need to ensure that a round-start or stock fabricator cant print c2 contraband, so the standard issue stuff like stun batons should get classified to t1

Stun batons require research, Stun prods don't, but those are much weaker.

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the idea is that NFSD can license the space-legal use of these and in so doing track them, etc. Having them available through research is kind of intended, at least for now. We just need to ensure that a round-start or stock fabricator cant print c2 contraband, so the standard issue stuff like stun batons should get classified to t1

C2 is one thing, but C3 should be out of the question.

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