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add Cloud liquid water path to Atmospheric variables (table 1-01-01) #551

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amilan17 opened this issue Aug 27, 2024 · 5 comments
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amilan17 commented Aug 27, 2024

Initial request

Cloud liquid water (CLW) total column was updated in OSCAR/Requirements in the summer of 2024. This issue is an attempt to align the code with WIGOS metadata.

add Cloud liquid water path to Atmospheric variables (table 1-01-01)

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Cloud liquid water path 2D Field of atmospheric water in the liquid phase (precipitating or not), integrated over the total column.

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GCOS, OSCAR Requirements, @kpremec

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  • OSCAR/Surface
  • OSCAR/requirements
  • Radar/DB
  • OceanOPS
  • WHOS
  • WDQMS
  • GBON Compliance Monitor
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See comment in: https://space.oscar.wmo.int/variables/view/cloud_liquid_water_clw_total_column

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maybe related to Water vapour which does not have a definition

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Example: Manual on Codes (WMO-No. 306), Volume I.3, WMO Codes Registry, Code table 1-01-01

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Similar terms:

  • Cloud Liquid Water Content - Cloud Liquid Water is a measure of the total liquid water contained in a cloud in a vertical column of atmosphere.
  • Liquid water path [gm/m^2]: It is a measure of the total amount of liquid water present in the column. A retrieved quantity from the microwave radiometer.
  • The total amount of liquid water per unit area in the column of air from cloud base to top height is called liquid water path (LWP)

The primary issue with the proposed term 'Cloud liquid water path' is the constraint 'cloud' of the more general term 'liquid water path', which is not evident from the proposed description. Liquid water can exist in the atmosphere outside of (identifiable) clouds. The term 'cloud' is restricted to liquid water or ice particles suspended in air above a certain elevation above ground, while fog also contributes to the total columnar liquid water content.

To be consistent, rather than just adding the proposed term, it is suggested to add 2 terms, namely:

  1. Total atmospheric liquid water path = vertically integrated liquid water content of the atmosphere above a specified location on Earth
  2. Cloud liquid water path = vertically integrated liquid water content of a cloud above a specified location on Earth.

The originator of the issue @kpremec is requested to clarify which of these 2 variables is meant by the variable 'Cloud liquid water path'. Either the term or the description needs to be updated.

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https://github.com/wmo-im/tt-wigosmd/wiki/Meeting.2024.11.21 notes:
Joerg proposes two terms instead of one

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amilan17 commented Dec 13, 2024

https://github.com/wmo-im/tt-wigosmd/wiki/Meeting.2024.12.13 notes:
@amilan17 help facilitate coordination with GCOS on recommendation above

@amilan17 amilan17 modified the milestones: FT2025-1, FT2025-2 Jan 15, 2025
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amilan17 commented Jan 20, 2025

Related WIGOS codes:

  • 373 | Cloud liquid water (CLW) | Atmospheric water in the liquid phase (precipitating or not).
  • 327 | Cloud ice | Atmospheric water in the solid phase (precipitating or not).

@kpremec will work with GCOS

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